tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post115522452508753041..comments2024-02-24T09:52:14.054-08:00Comments on Notes from Halfland: Flipping OutShelley Noblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1156654195429885432006-08-26T21:49:00.000-07:002006-08-26T21:49:00.000-07:00Merci, Madame Corey!Merci, Madame Corey!Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1156570086536443732006-08-25T22:28:00.000-07:002006-08-25T22:28:00.000-07:00WOW!! I love the links you add!! Thanks!!WOW!! I love the links you add!! Thanks!!Tongue in Cheek Antiqueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03750859132595134235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1156352255152125192006-08-23T09:57:00.000-07:002006-08-23T09:57:00.000-07:00Wow, As de Pique, that is a great site! It took me...Wow, As de Pique, that is a great site! It took me a while poking around in the all French site to find the flipbooks but when I did, it was a marvelous collection of sweet animations, especially the black and whites by Emmanuel Traunecker and I really liked discovering young print/concept artist, Scott Blake. I plan on watching his work progress.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for coming by!Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1156327060580836212006-08-23T02:57:00.000-07:002006-08-23T02:57:00.000-07:00A lot of flipbooks from around the world are avali...A lot of flipbooks from around the world are avaliable on the french site HEEZA (http://www.heeza.fr).<BR/>One of my favourite !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155481571900197962006-08-13T08:06:00.000-07:002006-08-13T08:06:00.000-07:00"I would do that only if the book were written usi..."I would do that only if the book were written using one of the Writing Mouse's whiskers with hand-squeezed grape juice from grapes I'd grown myself in sandy soil I had mixed the ratios of personally to grow the deepest possible color. Yeah."<BR/><BR/>....good point...:)UbaTuberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15777541540454167277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155449084333125672006-08-12T23:04:00.000-07:002006-08-12T23:04:00.000-07:00Yep, I would do that only if the book were written...Yep, I would do that only if the book were written using one of the Writing Mouse's whiskers with hand-squeezed grape juice from grapes I'd grown myself in sandy soil I had mixed the ratios of personally to grow the deepest possible color. Yeah.<BR/><BR/>Mike, you know things I like, quality, handmade. Things made by hand really do carry a special charge as you say, love all things hand-crafted. In this case, maybe because films even independents still chase Hollywood promotional methods in a way, it seems to call for a more commercial solution. Dunno.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155444466286059942006-08-12T21:47:00.000-07:002006-08-12T21:47:00.000-07:00Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhh........Ok, I guess I see w...Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhh........<BR/><BR/>Ok, I guess I see where you're coming from. Although I think the ultimate thing in the universe would be a handmade Nobleworks flipbook, entirely on hand-pressed papers in special silk binding. But maybe - just a bit too difficult.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155365605542971292006-08-11T23:53:00.000-07:002006-08-11T23:53:00.000-07:00Hi Kim, YOU are such a fit for flips it's ridiculo...Hi Kim, YOU are such a fit for flips it's ridiculous. Your art and design and HUMOR are super suited to this medium. The revelation of that company at the top o' the post that got me thinking is that they will take digital video and create the finished books for you. If you have a digital video camera, you could shoot some clever footage, like the things you do with your still camera, and send it in. Great for motion art in itself. Be sure to check the artist flips section at the Flipbook site (http://www.flipbook.info/typology.php#pub) for some idea of how artists have previously used them.<BR/><BR/>My plans for it right now is to create special scenes from my short, like a hand-held trailer, for promotion of its eventual site/cinema.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by, by the way, send me an address privately and I'll send you a souvenir button.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155361700858502832006-08-11T22:48:00.000-07:002006-08-11T22:48:00.000-07:00I always wanted to make a flip book, I have the so...I always wanted to make a flip book, I have the software but never seem to have the time to actually concentrate on making the scenes for them! It is late, and I just got in from work, but I want to look at your post and links more carefully. I have an entire bowl of flip books (some rather naughty), I think they are magical....I want to see what YOU do. how exciting.Kim Carneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835737810295355817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155341445475601772006-08-11T17:10:00.000-07:002006-08-11T17:10:00.000-07:00Nuh uh, uh uh, firstly, the ink costs for inkjet i...Nuh uh, uh uh, firstly, the ink costs for inkjet ink would be inky stinky. Did you guys know that that stuff goes for more than fine French perfume?! When I first discovered the Net I was printing out huge full color tutorials right and left without the slightest idea that a set of inks for my Epson costs $60! Now I think twice and try to keep my printing to a minimum.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, nuh uh, this is one of those cases where a (small) business' service is cheaper faster better than I could do. I mean the bindery has to be done with the right equipment to work properly. Don't you think a commercially produced flip would be so much cooler than a homemade one? It's like the Halfland Commemorative Collectible Limited Edition Buttons, The art chick who made them for me had the right gear to make it look professional.<BR/><BR/>I'll be revoluntionary in other ways! {•} {-} late, Ale!<BR/> -=--Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155339848911699152006-08-11T16:44:00.000-07:002006-08-11T16:44:00.000-07:00Hey!I'd go Mike's way xDCome on Shell! What better...Hey!<BR/>I'd go Mike's way xD<BR/>Come on Shell! What better way to fight corporate world than doing your own stuff!<BR/>Come on...get that revolutionary out of you! heheblahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13573639607656623939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155333832282370072006-08-11T15:03:00.000-07:002006-08-11T15:03:00.000-07:00To Erica:YES!! Your incredible illustrations and o...To Erica:<BR/>YES!! Your incredible illustrations and other artwork brought into animation this way? Simply sensational. Thanks for stopping by!<BR/><BR/>To Jeffery: Great idea to feature special scenes that aren't in the movie, maybe even outtakes and bloopers! Nola tripping and falling down or Jenny going up on her lines and shouting off screen to the director demanding her PA get her the mocha grande she asked for like 20 minutes ago? Too cool. Good stuff.<BR/><BR/>To Mike:<BR/>Bitch, you must be crazy, there's no way I'm going to hand-collate 18 umpteenjillion frames and cut them precisely enough to look nice and professional and I've been doing precision paste up for 20 years! I can have any print shop trim the stacks for me, yes, but keeping track of the order of them in the first place? No way, nuh uh. <BR/><BR/>Of course flips aren't at all new, it's just that it's new to me to think of producing my DIGITAL clips with them. (Just so you know, I too am all down with persistence of vision, but Zoetropes give me a headache.)<BR/><BR/>Now vignetting the edges--that's brilliant! Thanks for that important touch.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155329607465341632006-08-11T13:53:00.000-07:002006-08-11T13:53:00.000-07:00Heh.... it's funny hearing people talk about flipb...Heh.... it's funny hearing people talk about flipbooks as if they're something new! Actually they predate the motion picture itself! <BR/><BR/>Why use an expensive company to produce it commercially? Shelley, I see you going it more traditionally, or at least DIY. A good printer and a ream of quality paper, some scissors...... and of course the images need to kind of fade around the edges, for that old-fashioned look.Darkmattershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15410415900992364189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155319225302929822006-08-11T11:00:00.000-07:002006-08-11T11:00:00.000-07:00I think we could get a whole scene to play, Shells...I think we could get a whole scene to play, Shells! I'm thinking of building something like the earlier mutoscopes, a penny-arcade stand-up kind of thing, with an exclusive scene that isnt in the film :)UbaTuberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15777541540454167277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155316804942680122006-08-11T10:20:00.000-07:002006-08-11T10:20:00.000-07:00Wow....those are so cool. They really spark the im...Wow....those are so cool. They really spark the imagination.Erica Mulherinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16491037636538760528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155272348051373312006-08-10T21:59:00.000-07:002006-08-10T21:59:00.000-07:00Hey hi Grant, I hear you on that. I'm thinking of ...Hey hi Grant, I hear you on that. I'm thinking of making many hopefully archival (?) copies of 1/2L. dvd's (with a "making of" featurette that you all are now a part of) and perhaps also making a specially designed clip that is not only ok being silent but actually has some creative intentional reason for it.<BR/><BR/>You go right ahead and click away on your project, that's where the rubber meets the road anyway. All this other stuff is just fun to plan for.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155265304377111802006-08-10T20:01:00.000-07:002006-08-10T20:01:00.000-07:00A little flip-book would be a nifty promo item. Th...A little flip-book would be a nifty promo item. Those print based flip books probably have a better chance of being preserved and functional 100 years from now as well in contrast to a series of JPEG photos animated for the web or DVD. I hope I'm wrong (he says as he continues to shoot hundreds of digital photos for his stopmo film).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155260879244287042006-08-10T18:47:00.000-07:002006-08-10T18:47:00.000-07:00And a Halfland welcome to new visitors from Portug...And a Halfland welcome to new visitors from Portugal and Isreal.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155260445988056132006-08-10T18:40:00.000-07:002006-08-10T18:40:00.000-07:00I'm a gonna charge $1 per "showing" in my little p...I'm a gonna charge $1 per "showing" in my little portable cinema that I'll carry with me. tee hee.(used to cost a penny but you know, inflation.)Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155260259415311472006-08-10T18:37:00.000-07:002006-08-10T18:37:00.000-07:00Yes, Ale, VERY SELECTIVE promo indeed. I don't thi...Yes, Ale, VERY SELECTIVE promo indeed. I don't think black and white would cost less in this method, it's not like offset printing costs, it's digital so it'd be the same expense no matter how much or little color is used.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure there will be a feasible way to do this by the time we're ready.Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155258582318642682006-08-10T18:09:00.000-07:002006-08-10T18:09:00.000-07:00WOW! That'd be awesome! Specially the custom lil' ...WOW! That'd be awesome! Specially the custom lil' theater!<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I totaly see a dark forest/swamp look for 'Jenny Greenteth' xD<BR/><BR/>I've seen and personaly flipped some of those books, and the effect is awesome; but they are way to expensive for promo...What about going black and white? Depends on what you wanna show I guess, but it'll surely lower the costblahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13573639607656623939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155237898821226552006-08-10T12:24:00.000-07:002006-08-10T12:24:00.000-07:00Jeffery, your film would especially lend itself to...Jeffery, your film would especially lend itself to such an old fashion presentation.<BR/><BR/>I just thought, I bet those image wheels, as seen in the viewers, would hold more frames than even the highest stacked hand-held flip books. I wonder if I ordered a series of books from a company and added the leaves sequentially onto a wheel hub I could get a cool flickering full scene to view. (!)Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155237502142966222006-08-10T12:18:00.000-07:002006-08-10T12:18:00.000-07:00Right on, Jeffery! Now that's what I'm talking abo...Right on, Jeffery! Now that's what I'm talking about!!Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155236680548896442006-08-10T12:04:00.000-07:002006-08-10T12:04:00.000-07:00WOW....I suddenly find myself needing to make one ...WOW....I suddenly find myself needing to make one of these Midget Movie Theatres....it'd be like watching a stop-mo trailer like a puppet show, which is fitting...thinking about custom designs for the box, I can totally imagine a little Jenny's Lair theatre...or Jenny on one side and Nola on the other, carved reliefs....maybe wood, so I can burn it too...yeah, its on the list :), THANKS!UbaTuberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15777541540454167277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25158433.post-1155231898150894452006-08-10T10:44:00.000-07:002006-08-10T10:44:00.000-07:00Hi Guys, yeah, they do offer a volume price on 200...Hi Guys, yeah, they do offer a volume price on 200, getting down to about $6, but I think I can do better by talking out the whole scheme with them, or others, when the time comes.<BR/><BR/>I'm certain about it for "footage" tastes and using them as a kind of calling card for Halfland, but I may want to do even more with them. (!)<BR/><BR/>This really does open up an exciting world of possibilities for all animators!Shelley Noblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10968333057020378002noreply@blogger.com